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“We refuse to call it a church! We aren’t calling it a church.. so we will call it a ‘place with the cross at the top’.
The person without a home will wander and loiter.. the large black snake with his wicked grip will demand he leaves ‘that place with the cross at the top’.. the lack of compassion will lead to death.
The authorities investigate.. the snake with his blustering arrogance and powerful name ragefully makes demands that the authorities refuse to abide by.
They have a picture. (This might be a reference to ones self image or it could be literal)
Such a massive scandal.. the walls of this place begin to fall.. its over.. even as a public figure takes over.. nothing will save it from exposer.. from the truth.. from its end.
The public figures will find them self consumed by the scandal as the truth grows and grows.. how could they be so complicit?”
The black snake was very similar to an old prediction:
“Hostage.. kept under control.. a despicable act.”
The vision below symbolically describes it better. They also added an odd message of “Miss Cave or (calf)” but I could have misunderstood what they said.
I had a vision of a person complaining to the leader of what seemed like an odd religion. The leader acted concerned, even hugging the person, but then turned into a large black snake the coiled itself around the person, squeezing them tightly. The snake held the victim in a place of squalor. Bugs and filth surrounded the person. The snake continued to slither around what was now more than one person, growing larger, its eyes turning black. Then like that the secret was out.
Are they saying homeless or was this person living in the church at one time? Snakes are symbolic to liars, people with next to no integrity. The message behind it all is a continue theme that we are in an of era exposing the truth “our father will turn over the rocks and expose what is underneath”. It goes to the heart of who they are, willing to share the truth with you, exposing the lies, but then the divine steps back and lets us take it from there, because in the end we are responsible for the happenings of this home of ours, and we have a responsibility to it.
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95 responses to “Prediction: The Fall of a Church”
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There is a niche group of old order fundamentalist Pentecostal churches that practice snake handling, usually with deadly varieties. If they are bitten and don’t die, it’s supposedly evidence that God has protected them.
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Could this perhaps be about the Church of Scientology? There have been numerous rumors that they have kept people hostage in their facilities.
Also I hope Bea is doing well!-
Yes everything points to the Church of Scientology. They did not use those words, but from Miscalf (similar to the leaders name) to the public figures, to how they treat people.
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She is doing much better, thanks! She is still recovering so I am limiting my readings but other than that Bea is doing good.
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Thought about the same thing Gabe. Specially when they mentioned public figures since a lot of famous celebrities joined Scientology.
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Hello everyone, just to clarify I believe this entire prediction is a refence to the Church of Scientology. However they never said it, so its important that I do not as well. But the name Miscalf (similar to the leaders name), the public figures, the tone of the church, all of it points to them. Its possible I could be wrong but unlikely.
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I think this is talking about the “Church” of Scientology. The leader is a guy called David Miscavige (Miss Cave or Calf)? I think that is what they were trying to say. Also best to you and Bea as she recovers!
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There’s a book titled “Beyond Belief”, by a woman who fled the Scientology group. Actually, she (Jenna Miscavige Hill) is the leader’s niece, but she went through a lot.
Her book told of separation from her parents, children doing hard labor, no one listening to dissent. Both her parents had, at one time, been kept in a facility when they broke rules.
And when she grew up and wanted to leave with the man she loved, they went through hell and back to make it out, being separated and treated like criminals. There were all sorts of strict rules–and some really bizarre ones–that they had to live by.I’d recommend people read it. Eric, you might want to read it as well, and see if the stuff Jenna described matches with any of your visuals.
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Sara, Ive read several books on Scientology, and imo Jenna’s was the best. It’s a horrible cult & I pray it and all cults fall On A & E channel there is a series on cults. I had no idea there were so many! NXIVM, the one where they were branding women is another appalling cult that needs to go. Thank God leader is in prison waiting for trial now.
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Thanks for the details.
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SO glad to hear Bea is doing well! We’ve kept you all in our healing thoughts and prayers.
Miss Cave/Calf — Miscavige. The leader of the Church of Scientology is David Miscavige. Often pronounced “Mis-cavie” but correct pronunciation is “Mis-cav-ige” which fits with both words that you heard Eric.
I’m posting because I had a vision a few months ago that this church falls and falls hard. To include Tom Cruise (perhaps the public figure you name in your prediction). I don’t know why but reading your thoughts gave me chills and such validation. It feels bad and I only hope the pain parts can be avoided if at all possible (the homeless person’s death).
Big hugs to Bea and your entire family!
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According to Spirit its big news. I question if the person lived in this church and was disgarded with no where to go.
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there is lack of compassion I watched the special on this..they divide families, separate and turn against you if you leave the church and your family cannot have anything to do with you. Very twisted and evil, They turn people away and abuse them and even stalk them if they leave the church, speak out against it. On a better topic, Best to Bea! Hope she is feeling better.
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She is doing much better. Bea is still recovering but doing very well considering. Thanks.
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I am so glad that Bea is doing better. Ill schedule a reading when I can. Time for my check up! LOL
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Thanks, things are finally looking up!
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My very first thought before I read this post was that it’s about Scientology. It seems lots of others had the same thought. I personally knew a couple and the wife joined, but not the husband. He was a doctor and they had 4 kids. They said she needed to give them lots of money for “clearing.” She ended up bankrupting them, they had to sell their beautiful home they had custom built & then they got divorced. A very horrible ‘church’ if you ask me.
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First name that came to my mind was Joel olestien
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Dang, I kind of like him. I live in close proximity to the headquarters of the CoS. Let me tell you from first hand experience…my husband was a musician and helped raise money with a show for the Lisa McPherson fund and we also crewed for a semi-fictional movie called “The Prophit” based on LR Hubbard. We had people watching our house, lots of church literature was sent to us and it got real creepy there for a while. They are not well loved in Clearwater FL.
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aleafinthewind77 — Joel’s too busy flying in his personal jets/helicopters, cruising in his luxory/sports cars, and buying new real estate for his next multi-million dollar mansion.
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He is another one. Spirit is very opposed to some of his teachings, as they oppose the humility factor.
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Reblogged this on melbrake and commented:
Eric, this is a most remarkable message from Spirit, although very troubling. I had a similar message from my guides in 2014 about a cross at the top of a church and a older man who called out the person who was very dark. My understanding is that this person is the Anti-Christ who tries to take over the church or he is Christ like. Thank you so much for sharing.https://melbrake.wordpress.com/2014/09/19/the-anti-christ-will-come-to-the-top-of-my-church/
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‘place with the cross at the top’ — made me think of Scientology due to the big golden cross their buildings have at the top.
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Why is there a cross on top??
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Eric, off topic but Ozzie and Sharon’s are from England and their son Jack has MS. It’s probably a stretch especially since you indicated it’s probably a politician. 🌷
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Big Opps, meant Ozzie and Sharon Osborne’s son Jack.
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Not following??
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I’m referring to your prediction older prediction that a Jack was passing son and that it would be unexpected. Sorry for the confusion.
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I see thanks
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Eric, great to hear your mum is ok and that the operation was a success, and great to hear you are on the onward and upward path health wise.
In my yearly predictions Spirit gave me in early January this year, one was:
“From mid 2018 through to 2020 Hollywood will be rocked by claims of shaky financial deals leading back to the mid ’50s and in particular cover ups of deaths of actors and other personnel during the making of movies never disclosed before. At least one claim implicates the US defence forces involved in the making of war movies.”
Hubbard’s Scientology has had a very strong influence in Hollywood since its inception in 1952.
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I Don’t think like all of you… I haven’t experienxce with what Spirits wants to talk but The firts think I thought when I read We don’t want to say Church… I thought about Anticrist aparition… for me its what’s going to happend
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el derrumbe de la Iglesia se refieren a la Iglesia Catolica.
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Estoy familiarizado con los escandolos de la iglesia catolica pero no se ajusta a los pequenos detalles. Tambien tienen mucho que responder.
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I don’t think this prediction is that big.
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Eric.
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She is doing much better and recovering better than I did during my surgery.
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BEFORE I read the whole thing I had a strong sense that this was about Scientology. Then I read the part lower down about the hostages and Miss Cavage which is Shelly Miscavage, the wife of the control freak head of the “Church” of Scientology. It sounds like someone will get into the Gold area in Hemet and discover the hostages there, then will be killed. Perhaps all will finally be revealed. PLEASE send love and Light to all the persons controlled by this fake church.
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Hi Eric, I’m glad Bea is doing better. This prediction sounds like Scientology. The leader of that “church” has imprisoned around 40 former executives at their facility near Hemet. His wife Shelly has been imprisoned at their facility near Lake Arrowhead for 12 years now. For more information, Tony Ortega has been reporting on Scientology on his blog tonyortega.org for many years. Search for “Shelly Miscavige” and you will find articles about her and some photos. Shelly really needs our help.
This dangerous cult spends around $60k per month on lawyers and Private Investigators to follow, spy on, intimidate, and harass former members. They spent $12 million following just one former member named Pat Broeker.
When this “church” is finally gone, it will be like The Eye of Sauron going out in Lord of the Rings. Thousands of people that have living under a cloud will finally be free, and be able to live normal lives.-
Thanks for the information. Wow that sounds horrible.
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Is it the evangelicals or Scientology?
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The entire church is expected to fall.
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Does this sound like the church of Scientology, the leader Miscavige?
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Yes, that is what I am assuming.
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I wonder if this scandal will have a chain effect & end up exposing multiple faith based brainwashing operations.
Hollywood is taking some massive blows this year, I don’t think it’ll ever fully regain the power it once held.-
There is another message I plan to post about a business exposure
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I am not quite sure how I stumbled upon this site but let me share my very similar dream in which the church, the big one ( I believed it to be the Catholic Church ), fell due to a huge volcano eruption. I normally have great frequent dreams, but lately there have been none and then this one, it really shook me. I think God was warning me about a big shake up in the church but I shouldn’t be afraid.
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Eric,SWC,
Vigano letter:: McCarrick,Wierl,and Pope Francis are breaking Catholic Church..
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Eric,,
I cannot understand how this could happen..political appointees?
Communists are atheists…The Chinese government has been clamping down on Christians..
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-and-vatican-to-sign-landmark-deal-over-bishops-1536929831
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Eric,SWC
Vatican cardinal….article
Under condition –anonymousHe preaches mercy,l,but in reality he is Ice-cold,cunning Machiavellian, and, what is worse– he lies.
Excerpt
According to Der Spiegel, Francis, who started as a “brilliant reformer,” now threatens to squander his legacy because “he often speaks at inopportune moments, yet in important moments remains silent.”The German weekly also suggests that there is a good deal more resistance to the Francis pontificate within Vatican walls than is commonly believed.
One Vatican cardinal, who spoke with Der Spiegel under the condition of anonymity, said of the pontiff: “He preaches mercy, but in reality he is an ice-cold, cunning Machiavellian, and, what is worse – he lies.”
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Eric,SWC,
Germany 🇩🇪German Catholic Church..looked the other way…
On abuse for decades…a report has been released.. -
Eric,SWC
Vatican 🇻🇦
Chile 🇨🇱
Pope defrocks a priest at center Chilean sexual abuse scandal -
Eric,a SWC,
Confidence in pope down sharply..in US
http://www.pewforum.org/2018/10/02/confidence-in-pope-francis-down-sharply-in-u-s/
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Eric,SWC,
Catholic Church faces gravest crisis since ‘Protestant Reformation ‘
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Eric,SWC,
13 states now investigating alleged sexual abuse linked to Catholic Church
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Eric,SWC,
All 15 Catholic dioceses in Texas will release early next year the names of clergy who have been “credibly accused” of sexual abuse of a minor, the Diocese of Dallas said in a statement Wednesday.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/all-15-texas-catholic-dioceses-to-name-accused-priests
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Eric,SWC,
Pope excepts resignation of Cardinal Wuerl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/12/world/europe/cardinal-wuerl-resigns.html
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Eric,SWC,
Chile 🇨🇱
2 bishops defrocked. By Pope..
Abuse allegations..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-abuse-defrocking/pope-defrocks-two-chilean-bishops-over-sexual-abuse-allegations-idUSKCN1MN0EX -
Eric,SWC,
Guam
Guam’s Catholic church will file for bankruptcy — a move that lawyers say will allow the archdiocese to avoid trial in dozens of lawsuits alleging child sexual abuse by priests and move toward settlements.https://www.foxnews.com/us/guam-catholic-church-to-file-bankruptcy-amid-abuse-lawsuits
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Eric,SWC,
Pope Francis concerned about Gay “trend “influencing the clergy..https://www.yahoo.com/news/gay-trend-influencing-catholic-clergy-pope-180106819.html
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Eric,SWC,
Convicted…Vatican number 3
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Eric,SWC,
45 states
Excerpt..
The horrors exhumed by the Pennsylvania grand jury, detailing abuses across six dioceses, sent tremors through the American Catholic church reaching to the Vatican. Perhaps not since the Boston Globe revealed the extent of similar abuses within the Catholic Church in Massachusetts in 2002, has misconduct by priests and efforts to conceal it been outlined in such detail.While stunning in scope, the Pennsylvania grand jury report landed as a wave of abuse allegations also washed over the Catholic Church in Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Guam and the District of Columbia.
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Eric,
A bishop in Los Angeles,
Pope accepts resignation…
https://apnews.com/07830c367a294e55ba7747d21a826de5 -
Eric,SWC,
Illinois
Excerpt.
The determination is part of a preliminary report made public Wednesday by Madigan’s office, which has been investigating Catholic clergy sexual abuse of minors following revelations during the summer of widespread abuse and cover-ups by Catholic officials in Pennsylvania. The report was critical of the six Catholic dioceses that govern parishes across Illinois for their lack of transparency and flawed investigations.Although the report says that “Clergy sexual abuse of minors in Illinois is significantly more extensive than the Illinois Dioceses previously reported,” it does not estimate how many of the allegations against the 690 clergy should have been deemed credible. Some of the allegations go back decades.
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690 WOW!
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Eric,SWC,
Priest…
Sentenced 25 years..Child porn..drugshttps://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article223358745.html
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Eric,SWC,
(Another problem for Francis)
The Vatican has confirmed that an Argentine bishop, who resigned suddenly in 2017 for stated health reasons and then landed a top administrative job at the Holy See, is under preliminary investigation after priests accused him of sexual abuse and other misconduct.https://www.foxnews.com/world/vatican-argentine-bishop-at-holy-see-under-investigation
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Are you serious! There still protecting the monsters of the church
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Eric,SWC,
Another problem..
Found this…(cannot be true)
Francis wants US ruled by ?.WORLD GOVERNMENT…for our own good? WHAT?!-
That’s no nice, with all there scandals I don’t think they should be judging our flaws.
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Eric,SWC,
France 🇫🇷
The Roman Catholic Church faces another public reckoning when a French cardinal goes on trial Monday for his alleged failure to report a pedophile priest who confessed to preying on Boy Scouts and whose victims want to hold one of France’s highest church figures accountable.https://www.foxnews.com/world/cardinals-cover-up-trial-a-reckoning-for-french-catholics
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Eric,SWC,
New Jersey.
Priest charged.
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/01/18/NJ-priest-charged-in-states-first-case-by-Clergy-Abuse-Task-Force/3031547811161/?ls=3 -
Eric,SWC,
Pope Francis acknowledges clergy sexual abuse of nuns..
Excerpt.
ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (AP) — Pope Francis on Tuesday publicly acknowledged the scandal of priests and bishops sexually abusing nuns and vowed to do more to fight the problem, the latest sign that there is no end in sight to the Catholic Church’s abuse crisis — and that it now has a reckoning from the #MeToo movement.Francis admitted to the problem for the first time in public during a news conference while returning to Rome from the United Arab Emirates. The acknowledgment comes just two weeks before he hosts an unprecedented gathering of bishops to craft a global response to the scandal of priestly predators who target children and the superiors who covered up the crimes.
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Eric,SWC,
Southern Baptist sexual abuse continues
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Eric,SWC,
New Jersey diocese…
Release name of 188 priests and deacons… -
Eric,SWC,
Virginia.
Virginia’s Roman Catholic Diocese of Richmond has published a list of 42 priests with a “credible and substantiated” allegation of sexual abuse against a child.https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-dioceses-list-58-clergy-with-sex-abuse-allegations
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I am in awe over how deep the darkness goes.
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Eric,SWC,
Oakland..
The Catholic Diocese of Oakland, California, has released the names of 45 priests, deacons and religious brothers who officials say are “credibly accused” of sexually abusing minors.https://www.foxnews.com/us/oakland-california-diocese-names-45-accused-of-sexual-abuse
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Eric,SWC,
Italy 🇮🇹
Rome..
Pope defrocks Ex Cardinal McCarrick over abuse claims..
Excerpt
Ex-archbishop of Washington DC is most senior figure to be removed from priesthood in modern times -
Eric,SWC,
Australia 🇦🇺
Cardinal Pell
Excerpt.
The former Vatican treasurer, Australia’s highest-ranked Catholic and the third most powerful man in the Church was found guilty Dec. 11 in a Melbourne courtroom on one charge of sexual penetration of a child under 16 years of age and four charges of committing an indecent act on children in the 1990s when he was the Archbishop of Melbourne, the Guardian reported.Side note
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Eric,SWC,
Illinois
Attorneys who have represented clergy abuse victims across the United States say they are releasing a report that lists the names of every Catholic priest and lay person in Illinois who has been publicly accused of sexual misconduct.https://www.foxnews.com/us/lawyers-to-release-list-of-accused-illinois-catholic-clergy
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Eric,SWC,
Resignation refused?
Cover up of sexual abuse..
Excerpt.
ROME—Pope Francis declined to accept the resignation of a French cardinal convicted of covering up sexual abuse, the Vatican said on Tuesday, a decision that drew fire from victims and their advocates in France and abroad.Cardinal Philippe Barbarin of Lyon had offered to step down in a private meeting with the pontiff on Monday.
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Eric,SWC,
Michigan
A 72-year-old Michigan priest has been sentenced to two to 15 years in prison after pleading no contest to sexual misconduct.https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-priest-gets-2-15-years-for-sexual-misconduct
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Eric,SWC,
New York,
List of 120 former clergy accused of abuse.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-church-abuse-new-york/new-york-archdiocese-lists-120-former-clergy-accused-of-abuse-idUSKCN1S227B -
Eric,SWC,
Michigan
5 catholic priests chargedExcerpt
“Some of these clergy … preyed on young children,” Nessel said at a news conference about the men who were priests at the time of the alleged abuse. She said the five cases were the “tip of the iceberg” as investigators continue to track down hundreds of tips on abuse by Catholic priests.
In some of the incidents, the priests mixed their sexual activity with references to Catholic beliefs or committed the acts during Catholic rituals such as confession, according to allegations in affidavits.
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Eric,SWC,
Poland 🇵🇱
Priest abuse
Excerpt
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — One victim spoke out, and then another, and another. A statue of a pedophile priest was toppled in Gdansk, put back by his supporters, and finally dismantled for good. A feature film about clerical abuse was a box office hit.Poland thought it had started confronting the problem of clerical abuse and its cover-up by church authorities. Then a bombshell came: A documentary with victim testimony so harrowing it has forced an unprecedented reckoning with pedophile priests in one of Europe’s most deeply Catholic societies.
Poland’s bishops acknowledged this week they face a crisis and made a rare admission that they have failed to protect the young. It’s also a crisis for the country’s conservative government, which is closely aligned with the Catholic Church, putting the ruling Law and Justice party on the defensive before Sunday’s European Parliament vote in Poland.
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Eric,SWC,
W. Virginia
West Virginia’s only Roman Catholic diocese has released the names of two more priests who it says have been credibly accused of child sexual abuse in the state.https://www.foxnews.com/us/w-va-catholic-diocese-releases-more-accused-priests-names
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So many, what is going on with them?
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Eric,,
The man who became the first U.S. priest to be labeled sexually violent for crimes in Illinois has admitting abusing two boys in Missouri.https://www.foxnews.com/us/priest-labeled-as-sexually-violent-admits-missouri-crimes
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Eric,SWC,
California authorities have charged the leader and self-proclaimed apostle of La Luz Del Mundo — a church based in Mexico that claims over 1 million followers — with child rape.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/leader-of-la-luz-del-mundo-charged-with-child-rape
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Eric,SWC,
Washington national Cathedral
Sexual misconduct report…16 adults..
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Washington-National-Cathedral-report-corroborates-14056636.php -
Eric,
Arkansas catholic diocese
Settles
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/06/28/Arkansas-Catholic-diocese-settles-abuse-claims-from-5-men/2121561719521/?lh=2 -
Eric,
Rhode Island
The Roman Catholic Diocese of Providence in Rhode Island has released a list containing the names of dozens of clergy members who it says have been “credibly accused of the sexual abuse of minors.”https://www.foxnews.com/us/list-of-credibly-accused-priests-released-by-diocese-in-rhode-island
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Eric,
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Eric,SWC,
Megachurch..
Child abuse
Excerpt.
A woman who said she was sexually abused as a child by a pastor at one of the country’s most prominent evangelical megachurches sued the church on Friday, alleging gross negligence and seeking more than $1 million in damages. -
Eric,
Pennsylvania
DOWNINGTOWN, Pa. (CBS) – A Downingtown priest was arrested after allegedly stealing nearly $100,000 from his own church. The Chester County District Attorney’s Office says Father Joseph McLoone stole $98,405.50 from St. Joseph’s Catholic Church in Downingtown over a six-year period.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/08/21/joseph-mcloone-chester-county-pastor-accused-of-stealing-nearly-100k-from-st-josephs-catholic-church-downingtown/
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